[Ron] Question: Is a human still a human if it is born and raised Outside of other human contact?
[Krimel] In a word, no. The evidence on this is a bit shaky but research on feral children suggests that after about 10 years of age, children who have not had the benefit of human contact can not learn language, can not be house broken and do not socialize. In some instances feral children have had difficulty even learning to walk erect. Ron: Kinda puts things in perspective, Family is the foundation of society. It is what defines us as human beings. [Krimel] So where does "family" fit into a system of levels? Is it biologically determined, Socially mediated and Intellectually justified? What sense do these questions make? What does this add to our understanding of "family"? Ron: What relation are these questions pertaining to? In relation to the MoQ? Generally speaking? Because to me it makes a great deal of difference especially to MoQ theory. To me, it highlights the distinction that humans are not much different Than any other species on this planet, that intellect is a matter of social Complexity. The levels are a means in which to understand relationships As it refers to Pirsigs thoughts about how value functions in Evolution. How it is evolution. How this all relates to pre-intellect is my main focus. In this light we gain an understanding that by what is Pre-intellectual is that which is un-familiar, not of family Knowing, dynamic. Individual experience. In this way DQ influences the individual which influences the family And this is where technology comes into play with the Families ability to adapt and survive. I think a stumbling block, even in our MoQ wisdom, Is viewing all of this from a "Homosapiens only" Club isolating human beings from the environment And anthropomorphically viewing the levels. That's what this adds to our understanding of family. And Getting involved with our own immediate families. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
