[Bo]
> About the meta-level. All big systems create a point
> of view that 
> isn't part of itself, a God's Eye meta-point. You
> don't find 
> Newton's Physics inside Newton's Physics where it
> would be 
> subject to gravity and its various laws. Thus the
> MOQ - as the 
> biggest system ever created - IS ITSELF, not a part
> of itself. I 
> don't know what Pirsig wanted to achieve by
> postulating the MOQ 
> as an intellectual level, at times I feel that the
> MOQ was too big 
> for him to survey, that our job is to help explore
> it, and I'm sure 
> the current intellect is a blind ally.

     Ok, the moq isn't the intellectual level
according to you?  I don't know anybody on this forum
that states the moq is strictly the intellectual
level.  So, your saying nothing new here, or are you? 
You like to point out the intellectual level and what
it is and what the social level is, but what is this
moq-metalevel that you espouse?  If it can't be known
partially by using intellect, social, etc...,
according to you, then what's the big deal about this
moq-metalevel you espouse?  What does it do?  What's
it about?  What does it have anything to do with this
world?  I really don't know.  Is it pure
experience/direct experience?

thanks.

woods,
SA


      
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