Greetings Gav,
I (who matters little) personally am more comfortable with
unconditional. I might prefer empty over unity too, but... Besides
my nit picking, I found what you wrote valuable. Thank you.
Not having been educated as a scientist, I can get annoyed when the
scientific method is used to justify facts. Here is a website that
I found that is close to my concerns. It's entitled: The Myth of
the Magical Scientific Method.
http://www.dharma-haven.org/science/myth-of-scientific-method.htm
Marsha
At 04:54 PM 11/26/2007, you wrote:
>hi marsha,
>i am using 'absolute' as opposed to 'relative'.
>relative knowledge is knowledge of good and evil,
>'absolute' knowledge is the knowledge of the dynamic
>unity of both - the absolute is Quality / Tao.
>instead of absolute i could say unconditional...?.
>
>
>--- MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > I understand 'new myth', but what does 'absolute'
> > mean? I'm having a
> > problem with the idea that there exists an absolute
> > anything,
> > pre-intellectual or not.
> >
> >
> > At 07:27 AM 11/26/2007, you wrote:
> > >the problem is not the scientific method.
> > >the problem is in the interpretation.
> > >whilst science operates under the inadequate aegis
> > of
> > >SOM it will have difficulty understanding the whole
> > >picture: because it presumes the existence of an
> > >objective reality separate to the observer.
> > >quantum physics made this inadequacy glaringly
> > obvious
> > >- it still does. how do we interpret quantum
> > reality
> > >under SOM? - answer: we can't.
> > >
> > >a new context is required and that context is
> > >emerging. new context = new myth.
> > >
> > >the new myth recognises the unity and sentience of
> > >earth itself - gaia....and by extrapolation the
> > entire
> > >cosmos.
> > >
> > >as einstein said: the assumption that we are
> > separate
> > >is just an optical illusion of consciousness.
> > quantum
> > >physics literally shows us the intimate
> > >interconnection of all space. space and time order
> > >reality; they are not reality itself.
> > >
> > >with an MOQ perspective we can make sense of
> > >everything because we factor in the primacy of
> > >undivided experience - pre-intellectual, aesthetic.
> > >and this is absolute not relative knowledge. it is
> > >knowledge by communion, by immersion, by
> > identifying
> > >with the world, by losing yourself in the world.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >--- MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Greetings,
> > > >
> > > > It seems that the problems with the scientific
> > > > method have been
> > > > recognized. Yet it has been anointed the best
> > > > method for recognizing
> > > > truth (provisional). If the scientific method
> > is
> > > > such a highly
> > > > valued, but very static, intellectual pattern,
> > how
> > > > will a better
> > > > method (pattern) get recognized? Maybe there's
> > one
> > > > emerging, but
> > > > what would be the probability of me recognizing
> > it?
> > > > Everything seems
> > > > a trap!
> > > >
> > > > Chop wood, carry water and paint?
> > > >
> > > > Marsha
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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