Hi Marsha, Gav, That's a great article Marsha, thanks for the link. Reinforces a point I keep making here that "scientific method" is only a tiny part of science, the majority being concerned with experience and explanation. (Good website generally in fact ... I shall be linking others to it.)
Thanks also for the Paul Davies "Cosmic Jackpot" review. Already linked to that. Regards Ian On Nov 27, 2007 10:37 AM, MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Greetings Gav, > > I (who matters little) personally am more comfortable with > unconditional. I might prefer empty over unity too, but... Besides > my nit picking, I found what you wrote valuable. Thank you. > > Not having been educated as a scientist, I can get annoyed when the > scientific method is used to justify facts. Here is a website that > I found that is close to my concerns. It's entitled: The Myth of > the Magical Scientific Method. > > http://www.dharma-haven.org/science/myth-of-scientific-method.htm > > > Marsha > > > > > > At 04:54 PM 11/26/2007, you wrote: > >hi marsha, > >i am using 'absolute' as opposed to 'relative'. > >relative knowledge is knowledge of good and evil, > >'absolute' knowledge is the knowledge of the dynamic > >unity of both - the absolute is Quality / Tao. > >instead of absolute i could say unconditional...?. > > > > > >--- MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I understand 'new myth', but what does 'absolute' > > > mean? I'm having a > > > problem with the idea that there exists an absolute > > > anything, > > > pre-intellectual or not. > > > > > > > > > At 07:27 AM 11/26/2007, you wrote: > > > >the problem is not the scientific method. > > > >the problem is in the interpretation. > > > >whilst science operates under the inadequate aegis > > > of > > > >SOM it will have difficulty understanding the whole > > > >picture: because it presumes the existence of an > > > >objective reality separate to the observer. > > > >quantum physics made this inadequacy glaringly > > > obvious > > > >- it still does. how do we interpret quantum > > > reality > > > >under SOM? - answer: we can't. > > > > > > > >a new context is required and that context is > > > >emerging. new context = new myth. > > > > > > > >the new myth recognises the unity and sentience of > > > >earth itself - gaia....and by extrapolation the > > > entire > > > >cosmos. > > > > > > > >as einstein said: the assumption that we are > > > separate > > > >is just an optical illusion of consciousness. > > > quantum > > > >physics literally shows us the intimate > > > >interconnection of all space. space and time order > > > >reality; they are not reality itself. > > > > > > > >with an MOQ perspective we can make sense of > > > >everything because we factor in the primacy of > > > >undivided experience - pre-intellectual, aesthetic. > > > >and this is absolute not relative knowledge. it is > > > >knowledge by communion, by immersion, by > > > identifying > > > >with the world, by losing yourself in the world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > > > > > It seems that the problems with the scientific > > > > > method have been > > > > > recognized. Yet it has been anointed the best > > > > > method for recognizing > > > > > truth (provisional). If the scientific method > > > is > > > > > such a highly > > > > > valued, but very static, intellectual pattern, > > > how > > > > > will a better > > > > > method (pattern) get recognized? Maybe there's > > > one > > > > > emerging, but > > > > > what would be the probability of me recognizing > > > it? > > > > > Everything seems > > > > > a trap! > > > > > > > > > > Chop wood, carry water and paint? > > > > > > > > > > Marsha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > > > > > > > > >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > > > Archives: > > > > > > > > > > >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Make the switch to the world's best email. > > > Get the new > > > > Yahoo!7 Mail now. > > > www.yahoo7.com.au/worldsbestemail > > > > > > > > > > > >Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > >Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > > > >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > >Archives: > > > > > >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > >http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > > >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > Archives: > > > > >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > > > > > > > > > Make the switch to the world's best email. 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