[SA previously]
> [[[Then Buddha came along, and Dogen who says, 'just
> sit'.]]]
[Dwai]
> Before we start quoting the Buddha, let us first
> look at his background a bit.
> He spent several years studying the Martial Arts,
> Yoga and performed intense austerities before
> finding out that he could "just sit" and be
> illuminated.
[SA currently]
Yes, so 'just sit'. As I said, it depends on
what your looking for. I can take a walk in the woods
or sit by a fire after gathering the wood, and
experience peace. I do need to continue walking in
the woods and sit by fires and these are practices.
Some people paint. I don't want to get into a debate
as to who practices best and why. I'm saying ordinary
life is in touch with reality just as any Chi exercise
is. Who's practice is better would be a silly debate
and I don't find value in that. If you could tell me
the value of such a debate and something worthwhile
would come out of it, then you could try to convince
me otherwise.
[Dwai]
> While cases of spontaneous awakening aren't/cannot
> be ruled out, it seems more apt to follow a set of
> guidelines that will be more likely to bear results
> than that.
> Taoists meditate, but they also necessarily have to
> do Chi Gung and/or Tai Chi to first feel their Chi
> and then control it. Yogis follow a similar rule.
Well, the Amerindians did have stories to share
(which we do here, but I'd admit their story telling
was more personal and there is much to be offered in a
gathering of people) and there was the shaman who
helped guide people through the spiritual world that
this world is.
"Spontaneous(ly) awakening" aren't we all?
SA
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