Bo:
I agree with much of what Ron says, but he tends to use
"intellectualize" in the somish - thinking- sense.
Ron:
Forgive me Bo, but I am a product of the culture I was raised in,
therefore
It is difficult to interpret the term intellectualize in other fashions.
:]
Bo:
The 4th level
DOES believe that the individual is more than society and can
survive deprived of social contact. This belief may be wrong in a
MOQ context (there is no 4th. level without a working 3rd. level)
yet valuable as a static value* the highest such.
*) A social-cuture-raised individual will succumb if deprived of
social contact, while an intellect-culture-raised individual may
survive even if marooned. There are many examples of this, but
it will take too long.
> Ron:
The concept I was trying to get across is that we are raised
In the culture, if one is born, survives and reaches maturity with no
Cultural contact, would he possesses the ability to intellectualize by
your standards? Would they in fact posess any attribute of being human
as
We define the term?
> Ron:
> Quite correct per my understanding, culture is social. It is not an
> intellectual pattern per say, but the creator of intellectual
> patterns, Or the environment in which intellectual patterns emerge.
> What really seems To define an intellectual culture is it's value of
> the individual.
Bo:
Good, hope you remember this at the next crossroad ;-)
Ron:
And I hope you also remember that there is not one without the other.
subject object metaphysics may represent the intellectual level
In our culture but it may not represent the intellectual level
As a general rule to the human condition.
If you think you are outside looking in, I'd think again.
SOL is an excellent and useful concept but it only applies
To our culture.
As long as we're square on that issue I have not conflict
With your ideas, in fact I think they are rather brilliant
And should be considered with more seriousness by the group.
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