Thank you Ian!

     This game of Is it intellectual?  Is it social? 
Your somist and I'm not.  It's stuck in our culture. 
Only original thinkers can get out of this kind of
thinking.  It's all lovely, but it seems like wheels
spinnin' in mud.

SA




     [Ian]
> Steve said in response to Khoo's 101 definition of
> culture ...
> "Handshakes are certainly part of culture but are
> not knowledge."
> 
> This illustrates the problem - the definitional
> (nit-picking)
> reductionist concern of Khoo's.
> 
> I'd personally work with a wider definition of
> knowledge than Steve
> ... but so long as we realize that is just a
> pragmatic issue ... we
> don't need to bottom out the detail, unless we're
> writing some
> pseudo-scientific SOMist academic (reductionist)
> thesis.
> 
> (It also illustrates to me why the social /
> intellectual distinction
> in the cultural layer cannot really imply two
> distinct layers - just
> more or less social and/or intellectual patterns -
> once individuals
> are able to communicate symbolically with each other
> during their
> "lives" supported biologically from below and
> physically below that.)
> 
> What matters is how the patterns and levels actually
> interact with our
> experience.
> Ian
> 
> On 1/4/08, Steven Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > >If I recall my Sociology 101, culture is defined
> as the sum total of
> > >knowledge that groups of humans share.
> >
> > This is an SOM definition of culture since SOMists
> only know about intellectual patterns but not social
> patterns.
> >
> > Handshakes are certainly part of culture but are
> not knowledge.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Steve
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