Ron, Khoo, Steve,

Steve said in response to Khoo's 101 definition of culture ...
"Handshakes are certainly part of culture but are not knowledge."

This illustrates the problem - the definitional (nit-picking)
reductionist concern of Khoo's.

I'd personally work with a wider definition of knowledge than Steve
... but so long as we realize that is just a pragmatic issue ... we
don't need to bottom out the detail, unless we're writing some
pseudo-scientific SOMist academic (reductionist) thesis.

(It also illustrates to me why the social / intellectual distinction
in the cultural layer cannot really imply two distinct layers - just
more or less social and/or intellectual patterns - once individuals
are able to communicate symbolically with each other during their
"lives" supported biologically from below and physically below that.)

What matters is how the patterns and levels actually interact with our
experience.
Ian

On 1/4/08, Steven Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >If I recall my Sociology 101, culture is defined as the sum total of
> >knowledge that groups of humans share.
>
> This is an SOM definition of culture since SOMists only know about 
> intellectual patterns but not social patterns.
>
> Handshakes are certainly part of culture but are not knowledge.
>
> Regards,
> Steve
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