[Ron] Words that use Subject,object and possessive case syntax to describe Mental awareness. Well said.
[Arlo] Absolutely. "As the atomic physicist, Niels Bohr, said, "We are suspended in language." Our intellectual description of nature is always culturally derived." (LILA). Just before, Pirsig sums it up nicely. "Mental patterns do not originate out of inorganic nature. They originate out of society, which originates out of biology which originates out of inorganic nature." (LILA). Elsewhere, Pirsig reminds us that "You may think everything you say and everything you think is just you but actually the language you use and the values you have are the result of thousands of years of cultural evolution. It's all in a kind of debris of pieces that seem unrelated but are actually part of a huge fabric." (LILA) "The language we've inherited confuses this. We say "my" body and "your" body and "his" body and "her" body, but it isn't that way." (LILA) Ron: Language not only transports mental patterns it forms them, mental patterns which are arrangements of synapses. arrangements related bio chemically to produce states of awareness . All in all it can not be isolated, not one bit of it, not mind nor matter Not intellectual or social, the cause is the effect the effect is the cause. They are, because of each other. Our language, our syntax demands definitions, It demands reduction, simplification, distinction. So It is created, as a matter of convenience. We are the effect of brain structure much like gravity is the effect of matter. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
