Bo: I'm not mocking Pirsig, it's just his splendid logic backfires. It's no news that great scientific theories re-construct reality, and like a crystallization spreads to include the past. A metaphysical upheaval even more because the world has not experienced one since SOM and it was gradual. Phaedrus of ZAMM tries correctly to point this out and show that there were realities before the scientific revolution - the levels below the 4th. - but Pirsig of LILA forgets this and violates his own insight by making the MOQ a mere description of a Quality reality that has existed from the beginning of time.
Ron: Good observation, its almost like because of the nature of what Moq is addressing, linguistically it commits suicide. When It gets to "symbol-as" it then enters Intellectual paradox, naturally. It's almost like when one arrives at the edge of syntax "it is", one conceptually reaches reflections and distortion. Quality, for me, is a mental state. An orientation. An alignment. Once so aligned, intellectual patterns take on new meaning. Yes an intellectual pattern is an intellectual pattern But state of mind is key. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
