Hi Ron,

>Ron:
>We may question and criticize all we like, personally I have never
>Been successful with changing someone else's viewpoint about faith
>And religion. I became well read in Christian doctrine just for the
>Reason of appealing to them from their own viewpoint. Soon as you start
>Parting ways in theory you lose them, you forget that the reason
>That they adhere so stringently to faith is because they do not wish
>To think. Faith is easy, thinking requires effort.

Steve:
Since reading The End of Faith I have felt very motivated to do
something about the problem, but I haven't been able to figure out what.

The other side of the issue besides convincing people that religion is
destroying civilization is to attack SOM. I think the yeastless
factuality of value free SOM is what makes atheism so scary for
believers. It's why they cling to their religious beliefs in spite of
their own recognition of these belief's low intellectual quality.

Ron
Steve, I think what makes atheism a threat is it is construed as
arrogant.
The believer really is'nt sure about the existence of God either
But tradition, cultural acceptance, and a conservative ethic are a
comfortable social stance. Developing an actual opinion based on
personal
Investment in research and active inquiry alienates one socially. It's
time
Consuming, difficult and unpopular. My friends who call themselves
Atheists
Are about as intolerant a bunch as the fundamentalist, seldom do they
have
Much to say other than trashing religion. They hate it when I question
their beliefs. They don't bother to think for themselves either.
Steve I've come to the conclusion that most people are lazy
intellectually.



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