Steve, Ron,

I think Ron understood that; he was just pointing out that that is how
it is often "construed". Anyway I'd like to add ...

You said, quoting Sam Harris ...

"When considering questions about the nature of the cosmos and our
place within it, atheists tend to draw their opinions from science.
This isn't arrogance; it is intellectual honesty."

I add - The main danger here is to "presume" the intellectual honesty
of scientists, who may not themselves have questioned their values and
the values of science first. There is dogmatic belief on both sides of
this argument, but your main point - about faith vs contingency - is
well made.

Thanks for the "full text" link by the way.
Ian
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