Hi Jo

I agree that we need to be able to refer to inner and outer
to make sense of our experiences but there is surely
SQ and DQ is both spheres?

David M



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 8:07 PM
Subject: [MD] The inner world


> Hi all,
>
> I have been reading from: Psychological Commentaries
> On the Teaching of G. I. Gurdjieff and P. D. Ouspensky by
> Maurice Nicoll. Vol I, p 48.
>
> At one time Nicoll was one of Jung's students.
>
> "Man stands between two---an external visible world that enters
> the senses and is shared by everyone: and an internal world that
> none of his senses meets, which is shared by no one---that is,
> the approach to it is uniquely individual, for although all the people
> in the world can observe you, only you can observe yourself.  This
> Internal world is the second 'reality', and is invisible.
>
> If you doubt that this second reality exists ask yourself the question:
> Are my thoughts, feelings, sensations, my fears, hopes, disappointments,
> my joys, my desires, my sorrows, real to me?  If, of course, you say that
> they are not real, and that only the table and the house that you can see
> with your outer eyes are real, then 'self-observation' will have no 
> meaning
> to you.  Let me ask you: in which world of reality do you live and have 
> your
> being?  In the world outside you, revealed by your senses, or in the world
> no one sees, and only you can observe---this inner world?  I think you 
> will
> agree that it is in this inner world that you really live all the time, 
> and
> feel and suffer."
>
> IMO Persig would place dq/sq only in this inner world, MOQ, which is more
> real than SOM, by including the internal as well as the external.
>
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