Actually there is even more for Pirsigians in that edition too. A romantic rejection of machines & technology in human interaction with the world. And .. Quoting Baggini, on the "that'll do" culture - an emprical utility that ignores "quality".
Ian On 2/13/08, ian glendinning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW MoQ'ers should find last week's "Thinking Allowed" interesting on > arts and crafts. > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/factual/thinkingallowed/thinkingallowed_20080206.shtml > > Craft as relationship with the material. > Absence of craft in art, due to "overprivelidging of the idea" in art. > > Regards > Ian > > On 2/12/08, ian glendinning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > David, you asked, > > > > > well, .... is art intellectual or social? > > > > Yes. > > > > Notwithstanding the evolution of the word art itself (craft, > > technique, any word with "rt" in it basically, etc - Pirsig expends > > many words on this.) > > > > But even art (for art's sake, and art to express and communicate some > > specific emotions or thoughts) involves patterns from both extremes > > - created within accepted styles / conventions / media (social) > > - created to push free of those bounds - either primarily or as well > > as the other communication objectives (intellectual) > > > > As soon as we document, analyse, codify those artistic patterns we > > move even the expressive / participatory forms in to the intellectual > > level. But at root, the art itself can be largely social, and often > > is. > > > > Ian > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
