Quoting Ron Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Ron: > Hello Platt, > I tink what Arlo was getting at was that society is a collection > of individuals.
Hello Ron: Well, duh! An ant hill is a collection of ants. Arlo is emphasizing the patently obvious. > Individuals who speak the same language share similar > ideas follow similar rules each individual having the power to > influence the way the other individuals think and act. Yes, each individual has power, but very few have enough power to change ideas and rules, like the brujo. > Jumping to the conclusion that he'selling a collective hive > Mind is kinda over-reacting. Especially when its this area > In which focus needs to be placed in order to grasp a more > Potent understanding of what intellect means and how it may be > Used with more precision in our discussions. Pirsig was defined what intellect is -- the content of an individual symbolic mind. > Society provides the > Frame and some of the pieces to develop our individual intellectual > selves. So does the biological level (brain structure) and inorganic level (carbon atoms). > Intellect does not reside in society, it resides in the individual Absolutely and positively right! We agree. > But society supplies those things necessary to develop it > Into individual intellectual awareness which are necessary > For an individual to function within it. As does the biological and inorganic levels, as cited above. > A society is ever a collection of individuals how the society > Values the individuals in every way mirrors how the individuals > Value society. Success is measured from this. Societies are often reluctant to see the value of an individual like the brujo, but ultimately the success of the society depends on such individuals, not to mention such movers and shakers like Plato, Aristotle, Descartes, Hume, Jefferson and other individual agents of change too numerous to mention including our friend, Pirsig. Success is measured by the degree of freedom society allows for such individuals to flourish. Remember: Only individuals can respond to DQ, not a "collective conscious." Platt ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
