> SA previously: Pertaining to thoughts are their own
creatures,
> and you mention here that "humans manipulate sensory
> data", but I'm trying to point out a concept
> similar to "we are products of our society".
Instead of
> saying it this way, couldn't we say, 'we are
> products of the thoughts we come into contact with'?
The
> kind of thoughts we are in contact with isn't always
in
> our control, and for society at large much is
dictated
> by the thoughts being circulated. So, how we deal
with
> thoughts circulated towards you, me, anybody, these
> thoughts collide with what we already know, but can
> we avoid the thoughts 'thrown' at us? Do you see
what
> I'm getting at?
> Ron:
> Yes, I do. I think most people dismiss those
> thoughts Given a quick scan, if they are open they
will give
> What they can a good look but most often the
> majority of those thoughts are chalked up as items
already
> known and ignored. This is another area where
information
> slips past us or gets exaggerated due to past
> experiences. Influencing what data we focus on to
support our
> beliefs.
SA: I understand what your saying here, but I still
believe what I'm referring to is different. It is
what Ian mentioned as "memes", I believe. I don't
think I'm moving outside of the scope of what meme's
are. How well they fit into the moq I would answer
well for how I understand the intellectual and social
level. On the intellectual level, I see 'thoughts as
creatures on their own', more and more. The internet,
for one, is moving into a collection of thoughts that
one human can't stop. Books are a form of 'thoughts
on their own' due to they inhabit space-time without
human need. Yet, in all of these examples, the
freedom of thought is limited by human support. Books
and internet would not last without social and
biological support (inorganic of course). 'Thoughts
on their own' can endure much longer in current times
due to thoughts do not necessarily die very quickly,
as soon as a human or many humans die. Thoughts have
moved closer to a life on their own, that it is
conceivable that thoughts may exist from an alien or
another animal may evolve to have thoughts, but these
conceivabilites are more imaginative. Yet, books,
CD's, drawings in cave's, and with the internet
another notch has been raised in how thoughts are on
their own. For one, how can a biological, social
human being, with all their thoughts, destroy the
thoughts contained in the internet? The thoughts in
the internet show an expansion of freedom in thoughts
living on their own. What do you think?
SA
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