Thanks Ron, :-) If I was a pedant, I might say it was a second or third-hand English translation from Latin, via Arabic, of something Parmenides said. But I'm not, so I won't. We would then end up debating what he meant by nothing, each time he used whatever word(s) he used, and whatever the context was. Without that, it's still a slogan, albeit, Parmenides slogan.
To avoid sleepless nights I find the best answer to how something came from nothing, is to say whatever it was always existed. (There was no first cause, existence just is .... time and causation are weirder than common sense suggests ... but as I say, the first-cause question has no interesting answer, it can only be the subject of theory, as Ham agrees, again.) Ian On 3/3/08, Ron Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > BTW "nothing comes from nothing" is just a slogan - tautology at best > - carries no weight in an argument. > > Ian > > > Ron: > That slogan comes from what some here would arguably > Posit was the first MoQist, Parmenides of Elea. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parmenides > > > > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
