David M. quoted Ham as saying:

> I reject David's suggestion that "the potential is...entirely 
> available in experience."  We can sense the potential 
> (of Essence) only as the Value of the self/other divide,
> and we experience a relational world by differentiating
> Value into objective phenomena.

DM: 
> I disagree, how else could we imagine how the entire
> cosmos possibly came to be?

That does seem to be a problem for the imagination, doesn't it?  

Regards,
Ham


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