Chris writes:
... but I'd like to start with criticising the last
part of
the post. The MOQ can't "leave sciense out" because it
is a metaphysics, and
thus e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g has to be incorporated in it.
If something is left
out, it doesn't work. But I think we can all quite
easily agree on this.
Jorge: Well, I, for one, don't easily agree on that.
My approach, as an outsider, to the relation between
Science and the MOQ is basically of common sense or
garden-pragmatism. As I said in my last Post:
"
why not leave Science alone for the time being?
Perhaps later on, when the MOQ is more firmly
established as a Metaphysics, the time would arrive to
change Science's numerous shortcomings"
Emphasis on "for the time being"
until "the MOQ is
more firmly established as a Metaphysics".In the
meantime, plenty to do instead of clallenging Science.
I get the impression (just an impression) from
frequent derogatory comments on Science in this Forum
(and also from selected quotes of Pirsig's books) that
Science is looked as a sheep gone stray that needs to
be steered back to the flock by the MOQ. You yourself
sums it up as:
" Science doesn't really have direction or meaning, to
sum up large parts of ZMM in one sentence"
Poor Science
adrift, with no direction or meaning.
What if I were to say that Science in the last century
has led humanity along an incredible journey of
discovery? A journey towards a far better
understanding of the world around us? Wouldn't you
call that "direction"? How have other fields of
creativity fared in that same peiod?
As to "meaning"
I really don't know what is the
meaning of Science, but neither what is the "meaning"
of Art, Philosophy or Religion. I presume that each of
them, in its own particular way, helps human beings in
finding meanings from their experienced world.
But that was just "muddling through", as you say.
Coming back to my former point: the relation between
Science and the MOQ, if viewed as a contest or
conflict, appears like a David and Goliath one. David
challenged Goliath he was pretty sure that God was on
his side, a belief I gather the MOQ does not have.
Ever since I read Z&AMM I've been intrigued about
why Pirsig picked upon Science as a foremost example
of what's wrong with our culture. Not that Science is
free of flaws and shortcomings, most scientists are
well aware of them. But, why not other areas where we
are faring much worse? Man-to-man relations and
society's ills to quote just two of the most prominent
ones.
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