Quoting Christoffer Ivarsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > (put this in the "end of faith" discussion. suited better there.) > > Platt: > > I think the rights spawned during enlightenment and the American > > revolution > > were rooted in a historical moment when meta-intellect, which also spawned > > the > > MOQ, burst through the darkness into the light of day. It's moment in the > > sun > > was all too brief, to be smothered by the SOM scientific mind-blanket. > > > Fact square: The ideas that the break away colonists of the USA based their > nation on was of course a product of the enlightenment. More accurately the > constitution is a direct implementation of Montesquieu 's "De l'esprit des > lois" from 1748 - something that has in practice not been updated since. > Now, the ideas of Montesquieu was indeed an expression of a time when new > ideas flourished - ideas of how to govern a state was constructed with the > utmost vigour and in a true spirit of experiment. On the writing table that > is. Montesquieu also proposed that people should be governed differently > according to the climate, and ideas of radical redistribution governments > and anarchy-like government flourished and were apprised alike - it was in > the spirit of experiment. On the writing table. This said - this wasn't as > Platt implies a time when freedom ideas were at their peak - it was a time > when ALL KINDS of (crazy) ideas were at their peak. The ideas were so > unbalanced and out there because they were new, revolutionary, and the > absolutistic government of the time that was the only thing anybody knew of > made it possible to build all kinds of thought models - because they had > never been implemented, so there was nothing to judge it against.
You left out a few people like John Locke, Adam Smith, Edmund Burke and Thomas Jefferson. As for being on the "writing table," the U.S. Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights (referred to by Pirsig) were all inscribed on the writing table -- to the enduring thanks from all who place the highest value on liberty, even higher than life itself. Regards, Platt ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
