Quoting Arlo Bensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [Platt] > Arlo flatly contradicts Pirsig. About those two biological > individuals -- according to Arlo they both started talking simultaneously. > > No matter how Arlo tries to justify a communitarian agenda, "Someone > has to be first." > > [Arlo] > Arlo does not contradict Pirsig, he simply takes all of Pirsig into > account, and he certainly does not use one one-liner to disprove > other things the man said.
"All of Pirsig" except that which doesn't support your socialist agenda. > As for your "one lone man who just started > talking", I don't know how much more ridiculous you can get (but I'm > sure you'll find a way to top it eventually). Yes, how ridiculous. I guess your theory is that everyone just starting talking all at once. How "logical" is that? > Yes, they did in that moment of recognition of shared attention both > start talking simultaneously, as they negotiated rudimentary symbols > for the experience they were sharing. I don't know about you, but I find it hard to negotiate while the other party is talking at the same time. I guess you're special. > And in that moment, culture and > selves were born. And this event was made possible by the long chain > of evolution that set in place the neurobiological affordances and > constraints upon which the recognition of the shared event, and the > storage of symbolic representae was made possible. I wonder. Can up put that in plain English? Or, are you trying to impress somebody? > But, it makes soooo much more sense that there was this one lone man, > who just decided to invent language, and then went out and taught it > to others. Nevermind that if he had no language prior to inventing > language, how'd he do it? The someone who was first pointed to a pig and said, "Ugu." The other fellow pointed to the pig and said, "Ugu." From then on, when they wanted to think pig, they thought "ugu." Is that hard for you to grasp? > No, you can stick with your I-B-I MOQ all > you want, I'll take Pirsig's I-B-S-I. Having given up on plain English, Arlo resorts to indecipherable code. Oh, well. ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
