[Krimel] I am about half way through Tomasello's book as we speak. I suspect your comments will be lost on Platt who doesn't buy into the whole "Oops" thing.
[Arlo] Not "lost", deliberately distorted into something like "neoliberal socialist agenda" or some such talk-radio nonsense. [Krimel] Platt wants to say that what is significant is X. I would say that what is significant is the magnitude of 'n'. [Arlo] As I think I must've said umpteen times, its never a matter of "individuals as opposed to collective activity", but "individuals engaged in collective activity". Certainly were it not for "individual red blood cells" there would be no human body, but a million individual red blood cells sliming around the ground does not a human make. It is from this engagement (individuals in collective activity) that we see the evolutionary steps that led from the first "AHA!" point of shared attention to the creation and authoring of the MOQ. As always, Platt's trying to wage a dichotomous war where the only options are to wag your dick about the Lone Individual or be a sniveling, commie bastard. But then, comrade Krimel, we've been down that road umpteen times as well. Yes, I think Tomasello's use of latching provides another nice parallel with Pirsig in pointing not just to the B/S point-of-evolution, but in pointing to the Dynamic-Static process that is the ongoing process of evolution. BTW, Pirsigians who follow Pirsig's idea that the social and intellectual levels are reserved for humans will also find parallel in Tomasello who ascribes symbolic use solely to humans (on this basis of said neurobiological adpation). Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
