> Arlo:
> By the way, I first saw Ministry back in 1988...
(Jesus Built
> My Hotrod kicks!).
SA: Listening to this now... This takes me back. I
remember when Alternative music didn't have a title in
the music store called 'Alternative' music. It was
mixed in with all kinds of different music, though
still in the rock section, but wasn't in the popular
rock section. You had to search it out. I bought
some tapes just to try out the music. Some were
decent, some annn, didn't like. I was introduced to
Pearl Jam first with their 'Ten' tape, then started
searching for Seattle bands. Ended finding Nirvana,
and this music caught me, I still listen to Nirvana at
times. Their Bleach CD is awesome. The music was
real, and Pearl Jam, from what I hear, still rejects
touring on a large scale. Kurt Cobain, of Nirvana,
had a very tough time with fame. His life story had
him living under a bridge to playing at people's
houses and apartments for birthday parties before the
rest of the U.S. found out about them. He was very
disillusioned with this culture, and rejected it
outright many times on camera. They did the goofiest
stuff on camera rejecting their odd position. Many
people liked them, but they didn't want to be
considered, especially Kurt, as mainstream U.S.; this
is why it was so difficult when they hit it so big.
Kurt didn't know how to handle this. On their second
tape, a song called "Rape Me", is about this. His
songs are very intellectual. He was a natural poet.
Drugs didn't help him cope. He relied too much on
them to cope, and thus, the spiraling effect of his
addiction were he felt more and more he needed the
drugs to cope. Eventually he committed suicide,
shotgun through the mouth, I believe. He left behind
a wife and daughter.
> Ron:
> ...summer of'91 Lollapalooza...
SA: I remember Lollapalooza beginning around this
time. I wonder if this tour is still around. What
comes out of this era, though, would be a rejection of
this tour lasting into stardome, unless, it went
underground again, then it would be valued much by
those from this generation. Thinking back to Cobain,
he's were I learned much about older music, such as
Jazz and older yet such as "Leadbelly".
Ron:
> To be openly anti-establishment, what fun. It began
> the process of breaking
> Down the stigma of social customs and morality...
SA: This is exactly it. This is probably the
motivation for reading such books as ZMM, getting into
Zen, finding roots of a people with a heart in
Amerindians were this culture has established roots,
the long walk in the woods stretching west away from
the eastern more European city and town establishments
as the sense of independence grows, listening or
looking at the art on the cutting edge, etc... Does
any of this liberation, breaking away, etc... catch-on
in the larger culture? Yes, but as Cobain says in one
of his songs, "His the one who likes all our pretty
songs, and likes to sing along, and likes to shoot his
gun, but he don't know what it means, don't know what
it means, when I say - his the one that likes all our
pretty songs..." (In-Bloom;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s8TaVAtlIE&feature=related
)
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