Chris,

     From listening to the Dali Lama speak, he
professes that he is an ordinary monk.  It is the
people of Tibet that look up to him as a spiritual and
political leader due to their spiritual ties and the
Dali Lama's practice.  The Tibetan people pleaded with
him to leave Tibet, over and over again, but he wanted
to be with the people and not leave them, yet, they
continued to plead for him to leave so he will not die
to the hands of Chinese.  Notice how the Chinese have
tried to twist who the Panchen Lama is, and corrupt an
ancient spiritual practice.  The Dali Lama is very
open to western science and technology, he loves it! 
He's just not for a complete destruction of a
spiritual practice he adores for stale Chinese
"Religion is poison" campaign.  Chris, I really don't
know what your talking about.  It would be far fetched
to find anybody on this earth that is a saint. 
Thus... why we practice.  The Dali Lama professes
democracy and wants Tibet to be a democratic state. 
I've known this for years, but found a biography to
show some dates:

     "In 1963, His Holiness promulgated a democratic
constitution, based on Buddhist principles and the
Universal Declaration of Human Rights as a model for a
future free Tibet. Today, members of the Tibetan
parliament are elected directly by the people. The
members of the Tibetan Cabinet are elected by the
parliament, making the Cabinet answerable to the
Parliament. His Holiness has continuously emphasized
the need to further democratise the Tibetan
administration and has publicly declared that once
Tibet regains her independence he will not hold
political office."   

http://www.tibet.com/DL/biography.html

SA continues:  It has been the people of Tibet that
keep appointing him leader, and he keeps saying to
them that he's a simple monk.  He is in a position to
help his culture, and thus, a man of compassion - he
does.


you sound so angry?  maybe not.


woods,
SA


> >>SA continues:  You know, after putting this quote
> here
> >>I notice, see the Mahayana Buddhism, it comes up
> >>again.  Also, Pirsig may have talked about Greece
> and
> >>the rise of a certain intellect, but it would seem
> >>this Greek intellect also corresponds with art -
> >>creativity, this is significant.
> 
> >Marsha:
> > Is the Tibetan Buddhism Mahayana?
> 
> Not really, it's a patriarchal, theocratic, and
> quite intolerant mix of 
> Buddhism and old shamanistic religions in the area.
> I really don't see why 
> people glorify the religion so, no matter how cute
> the Dalai Lama is he is 
> still a theocratic leader and more conservative then
> the pope in many 
> questions.  Not that that in any way makes the
> Chinese governments actions 
> any more justifiable, and its awful what's happening
> there. But I hate it 
> when people start making saints out of things they
> really know nothing 
> about. One can see it everyday in every newspaper. 
> Good Guys vs. Bad Guys. 
> Too much bad cowboy movies I'd say.
> 
> morning ramble.
> 
> /7chris
> 
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