Ron,
Some questions below:
Ron quotes Pirsig:
> The MOQ does not agree with Steiner (on p.208 of
> Poetic Diction) when he
> says "thinking transcends the distinction of subject
> and object." According to the MOQ thinking is
subjective.
SA: The truth, not Truth, I guess this is what
subjective means.
Continues:
> But the MOQ does agree with
> Steiner when he says consciousness transcends the
> distinction between
> subject and object because the MOQ says that' not
> all consciousness is
> thinking. Artistic consciousness precedes thinking
> and is separate from
> it both in the judgment of Freshman composition and
> in jumping up from a
> hot stove, and also, I think, in the making of
> scientific discoveries.
SA: So, what we think about is either a social,
organic, or inorganic spov or we may think about
thinking/about subjectivity, but what if our thoughts
direct one to dq? I guess these thoughts are
subjective, but the conscious, thus, experienced
notion of dq-thoughts are not S/O? I don't know. I
find my thoughts to be, yes subjective, but I find
these thoughts of mine to be hitched to the world in
such a way, that yes, if I wanted to slice these
thoughts up I would notice the other spov's in the
thoughts, but what if I don't slice these thoughts up?
I find unsliced thoughts to be more living and not
completely diced and sliced into this piece and that
piece. That, at times, is a practice of bogging down
and thinking about life and if not careful, thinking
about life too much as an armchair person would, and
not participating with life. I'd rather put some
thoughts down, and move on, experience, and
participate with life and not get bogged down with
slicing up what thinking is. So what kind of thinking
and reasoning, as I seem to have done here, yet, a
thinking that tries to avoid getting bogged down in
what these thoughts are?
Do you know what I'm defining, thus, valuing, too?
woods,
SA
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