Ron,
Nevermind.
SA
--- Heather Perella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Ron,
>
> Another way to state this question:
>
> > Continues:
> > > But the MOQ does agree with
> > > Steiner when he says consciousness transcends
> the
> > > distinction between
> > > subject and object because the MOQ says that'
> not
> > > all consciousness is
> > > thinking. Artistic consciousness precedes
> thinking
> > > and is separate from
> > > it both in the judgment of Freshman composition
> > and
> > > in jumping up from a
> > > hot stove, and also, I think, in the making of
> > > scientific discoveries.
>
> SA: If ones thinking is just parsing out s's and
> o's,
> and while I think I'm not slicing and dicing out s's
> and o's, I'm contemplating, oh, let's say putting
> bird
> seed in the feeder or when I was recently outside
> listening to the birds sing, feeling the warm sun,
> relaxing, and I was being very mindful of this
> event,
> thus, my mind was fully occupied with what was
> happening. My reasoning wasn't concerned with the
> s's
> and o's. My reasoning was not dead, but very alive
> and fully participating with the event. Is this
> kind
> of activity not thinking? What is my mind doing
> when
> contemplating, mindful, and fully engaged with what
> is
> happening? Where do my thoughts go? My thoughts
> are
> not actively defining what is subjective or
> objective
> or being either one. My thoughts are so fully
> engaged
> with what is happening I don't notice any type of
> parsing. It is a conscious activity, as noted by
> Pirsig above, but my thoughts are engaged and
> dancing
> with this conscious activity, coming and going, and
> thus, the thoughts are bringing as they come a
> certain
> picture while I hear the birds singing, even if the
> picture is of what I did earlier in the day, then
> this
> image leaves, or my thoughts may activity add 1+1,
> but
> then this thought activity will leave, in the
> meantime
> I'm enjoying the warmth, I feel the warmth at the
> same
> time, even if my mind takes over and I find the
> world
> disappears, but then this rush of mind taking over
> the
> event leaves and I may hear and notice nothing but
> the
> wind, all an event tied together with no parsing out
> of what is an s or an o, the thoughts are as the
> birds, just an event in this universe. I'm talking
> about how thoughts are a presence, a bird is a
> presence, this wind is a presence, all is a presence
> in this universal event. This kind of reasoning
> seems
> to be very different than simply wondering what is
> subjective and what is objective about this
> universal
> event. I'm not engaging in that kind of
> intellectual
> activity.
>
> What do you think?
>
> SA
>
>
>
>
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