Hi Bo Seems to me that Ham wants to do alot of metaphysics based on logic and speculation about how experience is possible and that once you have experirience he feels the SO distinction is fundamental and unavoidable. The MOQ starts with experience and sees no need to consider some theoretical level prior to this -other than the idea that the world does spacially and in time exceed the limits of human experience,and can be seen in terms of non-human experience.
David M > Hi David Morey > > 15 March you wrote to Ham: > >> You know if you wanted to convince a bunch of MOQers that the >> below possibility is one worth considering I'd suggest you'd have to >> start with the differentiated and relational reality of experience as >> described by the MOQ and show that this description poses a set of >> questions/problems that need to be answered or solved by what you >> suggest below > > ...etc > > I have given up on Ham in the dialogue sense, but from this it > sounds/looks as if you understand what his Essentialism says and > how id differs from - first - SOM (I thought we had some common > ground there, but that possibility was soon eliminated) and if so > how it differs from the MOQ. His book will probably be as > forbidding as his posts (full of learned phrases). So if you feel for > it please give me a summary of the said points. > > Bo > > PS > The MOQers are more varied than most "bunches" I know, so it > may not be easy to determine the said difference from the MOQ, > but as Ham is the sole essentialist his position may be clarified. > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
