> [Krimel] > One could as easily say that possibility is created by actuality. > Actuality > limits even defines possibility. It is not possible in this actuality to > throw oneself at the ground and miss.
DM: The point is you can't have one with out the other, but as for missing the ground you seem to be referring to the impossible, I'm referring to the the possible as the set of all possible patterns. The actual is any one pass through this set. [Krimel] I think we are on the same page with this although you tell me I am often wrong about that. What I am really complaining about is Ham's 'potential' which I suspect includes the impossible as part of the absolute. I could be wrong about this. I hope so because it seems to me to be a dishonest approach. > [Krimel] > It seems to me that possibility disappears with out time. Without time > nothing is possible. DM: You mean actual that is a subset of the possible I think. [Krimel] Yes but the set of what is possible is constantly being altered but what is actual. Actualization annihilates possibility in its wake. DM: What about that hot girl who never went out with you, are you sure it does not matter? [Krimel] It might have been possible. It might still be possible but it is impossible for me to date Cleopatra. DM: Why is it destroyed, more like forsaken, maybe for ever, maybe just for now, emphasize NOW. [Krimel] As I tried desperately to show a long while back in the NOW all probability reaches 100%. In the NOW possibility equals actuality. DM: What else is prediction and control doing? Are you thinking before you type? [Krimel] Some would argue, obviously not. DM: I have always admired Pirsig simplification of the complex as his greatest talent, you must realise this started as an attempt to make sense of Ham's post I think. Whitehead would seem a good addition to Pirsig I'd suggest if they could be brought together more. [Krimel] I enjoyed Sneddon's thesis because his attempt to do so brought Whitehead to my attention. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
