> > > > [Krimel]
> > > > Aren't individuals subservient to the state in every system of
> > > > government?
> > > 
> > > [Platt]
> > > Read the Bill of Rights in the U.S. Constitution.
> > 
> > > > How is fascism even remotely connected to Marxism?
> > > 
> > > [Platt]
> > > Read "Liberal Fascism" by Jonah Goldberg.
> > > 
> > > [Krimel]
> > > Again perhaps as you have so often urged others, you could explain 
> > > what your view is and how these authors support your views.
> > 
> > [Platt]
> > In Marxism and fascism individuals are subservient to the state.

> > 
> > [Krimel]
> > These must be very short books. How does this criticism differentiate 
> > these forms of government from any other? If it applies to them all, it 
> 
> > is hardly a criticism is it?
> 
> [Platt]
> Are you suggesting there's no difference between Marxism and the U.S.?
> 
> [Krimel]
> There may be lots of differences but the fact that under each of them the
> individual is subservient to the state is not one of them.

[Platt]
Sorry you think individuals in the U.S. are subservient to the state.
Obviously free speech and ownership of property means nothing to you. Sad.

[Krimel]
Both my speech and ownership are subservient to what the state allows. The
_principle_ of subservience is equal in both systems.



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