> > > > > [Krimel] > > > > > Aren't individuals subservient to the state in every system of > > > > > government? > > > > > > > > [Platt] > > > > Read the Bill of Rights in the U.S. Constitution. > > > > > > > > How is fascism even remotely connected to Marxism? > > > > > > > > [Platt] > > > > Read "Liberal Fascism" by Jonah Goldberg. > > > > > > > > [Krimel] > > > > Again perhaps as you have so often urged others, you could explain > > > > what your view is and how these authors support your views. > > > > > > [Platt] > > > In Marxism and fascism individuals are subservient to the state. > > > > > > > [Krimel] > > > These must be very short books. How does this criticism differentiate > > > these forms of government from any other? If it applies to them all, > > > it is hardly a criticism is it? > > > > [Platt] > > Are you suggesting there's no difference between Marxism and the U.S.? > > > > [Krimel] > > There may be lots of differences but the fact that under each of them > > the individual is subservient to the state is not one of them. > > [Platt] > Sorry you think individuals in the U.S. are subservient to the state. > Obviously free speech and ownership of property means nothing to you. Sad. > > [Krimel] > Both my speech and ownership are subservient to what the state allows. The > _principle_ of subservience is equal in both systems.
[Platt] If you can't see the difference between the U.S. and a fascist/national socialist/communist state, I pity you. [Krimel] I have not said there are no differences among political systems only that individual subservience to government is not a difference. That is not what distinguishes them. They are all alike in recognizing this as a principle of governance. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
