Quoting Krimel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > [Krimel] > > > > > > Aren't individuals subservient to the state in every system of > > > > > > government? > > > > > > > > > > [Platt] > > > > > Read the Bill of Rights in the U.S. Constitution. > > > > > > > > > > How is fascism even remotely connected to Marxism? > > > > > > > > > > [Platt] > > > > > Read "Liberal Fascism" by Jonah Goldberg. > > > > > > > > > > [Krimel] > > > > > Again perhaps as you have so often urged others, you could explain > > > > > what your view is and how these authors support your views. > > > > > > > > [Platt] > > > > In Marxism and fascism individuals are subservient to the state. > > > > > > > > > > [Krimel] > > > > These must be very short books. How does this criticism differentiate > > > > these forms of government from any other? If it applies to them all, > > > > it is hardly a criticism is it? > > > > > > [Platt] > > > Are you suggesting there's no difference between Marxism and the U.S.? > > > > > > [Krimel] > > > There may be lots of differences but the fact that under each of them > > > the individual is subservient to the state is not one of them. > > > > [Platt] > > Sorry you think individuals in the U.S. are subservient to the state. > > Obviously free speech and ownership of property means nothing to you. Sad. > > > > [Krimel] > > Both my speech and ownership are subservient to what the state allows. The > > _principle_ of subservience is equal in both systems. > > [Platt] > If you can't see the difference between the U.S. and a fascist/national > socialist/communist state, I pity you. > > [Krimel] > I have not said there are no differences among political systems only that > individual subservience to government is not a difference. That is not what > distinguishes them. They are all alike in recognizing this as a principle of > governance.
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