[Platt] What do you mean "have the quality of access?" The quality of the internet is available to all.
[Arlo] Its available at all to those who can afford it. And for those who can only afford dial-up, the Quality of the Internet is depreciable. It takes my friend (who is on dial-up) ten times as long to watch even short videos as it does me. And longer ones, or any type of "rich media" (meaning multimedia, or high-bandwidth content), forget it. People who can afford DSL or greater can watch movies, television shows and stream audio broadcasts online. They can enable realtime voice-chat, play in MMORPGs or social worlds like Second Life, they can partake in multi-media events in online learning courses. Those who cannot afford this, can't. Then let's talk computers. I know many families who can't afford computers. They don't get online at all. Now let's talk experience. I can use my cell phone to call into JOTT to leave a voice message that will automatically update my blog. I can then use my bluetooth digital camera to take, edit and upload pics immediately (yeah, broadband!). At home, I can edit images with PhotoShop (retail $699), upload them to my website, then jump into Second Life for an evening class (where video and audio streams are required). My quality of access to the Internet is better than many because I can pay for it. Sorry, I don't want my income to determine the quality of education to which I have access. [Platt] You conveniently omitted your personal attack. "Because you lack the balls to say what you really mean." [Arlo] Omit it? Sorry. Thought it was clear what you were claiming to take offense to. But, no you don't. And you still don't. [Platt] So don't hold your breath. No point in continuing a conversation with a deceiver and a bigot. [Arlo] Right. I'm a bigot. To recap. We had this conversation before. When I mentioned the success of the Japanese public schools, you said it was because they were, and I quote, "monocultural". [Indeed, when I look at my archives, your answer as to the success of Japan's public schoos was "they have a monocultural population"] Above, when confronted again with the astonishing success of PUBLIC education in Japan and Finland, you made the issue "racial" by saying "Why do Jewish and Asian students do better in school than others?" I say its about the social, familial and communal valuing of education. I've given you an example (I could give more) of a school district that is quite successful AND has a large "multicultural" student body, while giving examples of school districts that are "monocultural" and are failing. Tell me why YOU think our public schools are failing while the public schools in Japan and Finland are so successful? Am I a bigot? Here is my answer. The reason? Involvement. Parents of the kids at State High tend to be associated with the Uni to some degree, and thus place a high value on education, show very high levels of involvement in their kids education, are involved at the school, are involved at home. THAT is the root problem with the public schools in America. THAT is what is demonstrated by the Japanese and Finnish schools. They VALUE education. And so they have high standards for their teachers, have families who are deeply involved in their child's education, and see that the schools must be integrally held by the community. It has nothing to do with "monoculturalism". It has nothing to do with "the black element". It has nothing to do with class or gender. It has everything to do with value. In school districts where education is NOT valued at home, the schools will do poorly. In school districts where education IS valued at home, the schools succeed to the best of expectations. So tell me I am wrong. Tell me its all about having a "monocultural population". Or try to deflect all this by calling ME a bigot again. It's funny. And I need a good laugh. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
