[Krimel]: > The point is that mathematical laws result on assumptions. > Base 10 is culturally determined. Dozens or expressions > in base 12 are a hold over from early cultural assumptions. > I would say that a life lived clinging to some rigid ideas > about an absolute is a delusion.
If you really believe that mathematics is culturally determined, Krimel, then you are using "cultural" as a synonym for "empirical". Do you also believe that logical principles are culturally determined? That the fact of your existence is culturally determined? Do you regard physical reality--the objective world--as culture? If your answer to these questions is 'yes', could you define what cultural means to you? > I think your teleological notion is grossly mistaken but > I don't see how it connects in the least to subjectivity. Well then, please tell me how teleology connects to objectivity, since is it clear that nothing of your selfness is subjective. It's understandable that Pirsig would want to resolve the subject/object duality through a Quality ontology. But I find it incredulous that an MoQer could view his reality as totally otherness. > But when such an ontology runs counter to and leads away > from what is confirmed by science and math, it deserves to be > rejected regardless of whatever satisfaction it affords. > Frankly, if "satisfaction" is all we are looking for heroin is a surer > bet. I expect you to tell me that science and math are "culturally determined". In that case, what makes them sacrosanct? I see nothing about culture that is stable, reliable, or revealing of truth. Of course, were I to take up heroine smoking I might have a different view. At least I am certain of my subjective existence, an assumption which you appear to be grappling with. It must be the pot! Talk to me when your head has cleared. Regards, Ham Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
