Ham: I opened this topic on April 2nd to confirm what I felt was the fundamental problem of the MoQ -- its denial of subjective individuality. I also promised to report my conclusions after hearing what you all had to say about Value as it relates to the individual.
One thing that your comments demonstrate conclusively is that, for all its emphasis on Quality, the MoQ is a culturally-based philosophy in which the individual subject is enveloped in experiences, concepts, and principles that are not indigenous to him but are abstracted from a collective reservoir variously referred to as Intellect, Social Consciousness, Experience, and Evolutionary Process. Relegating proprietary cognizance (subjectivity) to a patterned universe serves Pirsig's need to eliminate S/O distinctions and establish Quality as the underlying reality of existence. As there is no other reality for Pirsig, existence is its own source and end. Like Parmenides' quintessential elements 'earth-air-fire-water', the four levels of Quality are the creative agents of the experienced world. This tetrology is an "aesthetic continuum" whose individual levels and patterns are deduced from cultural distinctions. Ron: Quality being a pseudonym for reality, MoQ places emphasis on proprietary Awareness. Essentialism says that this is intellectually derived, MoQ agrees to a certain point but postulates basic awareness as proprietary of millions of years of evolutionary instinct and perception with the evidence of certainty lying on the simple fact of successfulness evident by Our quality of survival thus far. This distinction places certainty in experience not in intellectual constructs. Purpose and meaning in intellectual knowledge is flawed because it must place meaning within Intellectual context which is culturally relative. Where as Essentialism is content to rest on the knowledge of source, MoQ Is ever in query, restless in its pursuit of development in Intent and meaning of the individual experience. Where one is a static assumption the other is an active inquiry With the purpose of evolving intent. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
