Platt: A great post, Arlo, one that explains a whole lot of conundrums, not only those you mention, but the mystery of consciousness that continues to baffle everyone. "Who is the I that knows me?" It also explains why logic can't explain beginnings from a cause-effect perspective. You just keep getting pushed back into infinite regress, as in "Who made God?"
It was these ultimate "recursions" and "paradoxes" so succinctly and clearly described by you and the passages from Pirsig you cite that propelled me towards aesthetics as the most fruitful path to better understanding of life and living. You can then imagine my delight at finding a metaphysics built on a foundation of Quality experience. Thanks to Bo for all these years of patiently, patiently explaining why the MOQ is not and cannot be itself a fourth level intellectual pattern. As Arlo put it, the MOQ is not AND CANNOT POSSIBLE BE just another cerebral philosophy. Rather it's a "way of being." Other contributors to this forum may have come to this conclusion long ago. But seeing it expressed like this in a single post is for me is a breakthrough. I hope to have many more discussions about this because I think it's most promising way to expand the essential meaning of MOQ. Ron; I think any intellection shapes the approach to "way of being", and that's precisely the point of it. SoM became bankrupt through objectivism creating A split and conflict between way of being and way of knowledge. I Substituted Quality for the Samurai in this passage. "It is bad when one thing becomes two. One should not look for anything else in the Way of Quality. It is the same for anything that is called a Way. Therefore, it is inconsistent to hear something of the Way of Confucius or the Way of the Buddha, and say that this is the Way of Quality. If one understands things in this manner, he should be able to hear about all Ways and be more and more in accord with his own." -Hagakure MoQ rectifies this and Joins way of being with way of knowledge. They harmonize under MoQ's Intellectual direction. To call this awareness of quality, MoQ, also confuses the meaning of what A meta physic is. There most certainly is an intellectual pattern known as MoQ we all read And discus. Then there is the orientation and cultivation of a Quality way of being. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
