Quoting Christoffer Ivarsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > [Chris] > >> I see you are having fun here, but correct me if I'm wrong - is Platt > >> really > >> attacking the principle of balance in the market on the grounds of the US > >> system? Because - Surprise Buddy! - balance isn't really the word to use > >> there, and it hasn't been even close since Roosevelt's days I'd say. I > >> suggest you study the Nordic Model, especially in the 60's and 70's, a > >> model > >> of balance if any, and a models that doesn't let some 10-16% of the > >> population in a country live beneath the poverty line. It's a lucky thing > >> you have got that American Dream that so easily fools people into > >> thinking > >> that it's OK for millions of people in the richest country in the world > >> not > >> to be able to feed and clothe their children or themselves. So when > >> Platt > >> says that ""balance" is out of whack by a ton. " I say - no f***ing shit? > >> There never was balance. You have got the American Dream - climb to the > >> top, > >> make it on your own - so what if some people don't make it, starve to > >> death > >> or have to turn to crime to survive in their American Dream - it's > >> liberty! > >> Where is the Quality in that? The Human Quality? > > > I don't know where you are getting your information about the U.S., but if > > it's from the same source as the information your're getting about world > > history, I think you have a problem. And didn't I read somewhere not long > > ago that the average "poor" family in the U.S. has a higher family income > > than the average middle class Swedish family? As I recall, the source was > > a > > Swedish government study. But, I could be wrong. > > No, you did not. You read that there is a higher median income in the US, > something that really doesn't say anything about what I'm talking about. > Here is just a wiki site: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_US#Other_international_comparisons > > But it really isn't a controversial thing to point out that a lot of people > in the US live in conditions fit for a third world country.
Speaking of controversial things, the above wiki article rightfully cautioned: "Much of the debate about poverty focuses on statistical measures of poverty and the clash between advocates and opponents of welfare programs and government regulation of the free market. Since measures can be either absolute or relative, it is possible that advocates for the different sides of this debate are basing their arguments on different ways of measuring poverty. It is often claimed that poverty is understated, yet there are some who also believe it is overstated; thus the accuracy of the current poverty threshold guidelines is subject to debate and considerable concern." Regards, Platt ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
