> [Platt]
> Ganging up to take away the property and freedom of others by force? I don't
> think so. 
> 
> [Krimel]
> Perhaps you could cite and example a government the western world of anyone
> besides the Bush administration forcefully taking anyone's freedom or
> property.

Me. I just sent in my income tax. I was forced to under Clinton, Carter, 
and Johnson as well.   

> BTW, I was OK with 'arrogant' the first couple of times but it's getting
> old. You are starting to repeat yourself if you start calling me a Mercedes
> Marxist does that mean I get a new car? I'll take a two seater with a
> hardtop, please.

If you work for the government at a high level, they'll probably furnish 
you with a two-seater. And if you are OK with arrogant even once, it
says volumes about your opinion of those who disagree with your  views.  
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