> [Krimel] > See this is the crux of the problem. Society is not at war with biology. > Biology is not a force for destruction. On the contrary biology and > biological urges are nurturing and promote individual survival. What is at > war are the needs of the individual against the needs of other > individuals. > Societies even, or especially even, families exist to balance the needs of > individuals with the needs of other group member. We all go hungry but no > one starves.
[Platt] As you know I'm sure, Pirsig disagrees. "Second, there were moral codes that established the supremacy of the social order over biological life-conventional morals -proscriptions against drugs, murder, adultery, theft and the like." (Lila, 13) Given a choice of you or Pirsig in this matter, I'll go with Pirsig. No offense. [Krimel] Every last one of those moral proscriptions applies to individual behavior that threatens other group members. It is conflict over access to biologically nurturing Qualities not conflict between biology and society. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
