Hi SA, I don't think the MoQ is paralyzed, just certain avenues of MD debate.
Like, how do you even start to argue / debate with anyone who cannot see any significant difference in the words "a" and "the" ?!?! What is the point ? Anyway, me to you. Paradox is good, real, a practical fact of life - truth (without any capitalization or the definite article) is full of it - so we live and work with it. Paradox doesn't say anything about whether we can agree or not. That's a matter of wanting to agree. We can. How we handle it can be generative or degenerative as you say. The MoQ is "mystic" (if I understand that word), but it is not anti-scientific; More, it enlightens science by bringing the mystic angle to the table. Science which is too sure of its materialist objectivity, to the exclusion of the mystic, is misguided. In the sense that difference is quality, and the paradox we refer to is a source of DQ, it is fundamental to MoQ, so we might be tempted to think of it as "The Truth" .... but I'd want to know what implications / baggage get attached to that choice. How fundamental, how fixed for all time, how outside the metaphysics, etc .... Ian On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Heather Perella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Platt previously: > > > > The point Ian is that the paradoxical statement > > is a "Truth." > > > > > > > > > SA previously: Interesting. But you said, "a", > not 'the', > > > "Truth". Difference? > Platt: > > No difference. Could just of well said 'the.' > > > SA: By saying Paradox is Truth, is to a certain > extent true, but I don't think Paradox is the end all > Truth. Now we need to deal with Paradox. It is > Paradox that has a number here either say: > > 1: We can't agree. > > 2: The moq is paralyzed > > Possibly even: > > 3: The moq is mystic > > 4: The moq is antiscientific > > > Maybe more... but these are the common hitches on > this forum, and it is due to not understanding Paradox > well enough, I would say. > Paradox is sort of the Truth, but is not the > Truth due to the handling of Paradox, the pragmatic > steps we take in handling and living in Paradox. The > handling of Paradox is philosophically further. These > pragmatic steps in living in Paradox either go samsara > or nirvana, either immorally or morally, either > generatively or degeneratively, either propelling > suffering or propelling compassion, etc... > > > woods, > SA > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
