[Krimel] "Since all knowledge comes from sensory impressions and since there's no sensory impression of substance itself, it follows logically that there is no knowledge of substance. It's just something we imagine. It's entirely within our own minds." I believe in western philosophy this is call phenomenology. The dead end is that for skeptics there is no resolution to this problem other than to call it absurd and ignore it.
Ron: I couldn't agree more Krimel. This is what skeptics do. But what the skeptics forget is that there is resolution in Quantum physics as per The SODV paper. But Pirsig places this theory on the only "certainty" he can, the fact that we exist. "substance" may not exist as we perceive it But our senses have responded so successfully to it that it is reasonable To conclude that it is relatively accurate by the sheer fact that we are present given the observance of how evolution functions. To ignore it Is to ignore reality itself in favor of their stale tea which swishes Nicely for them every time, they can talk about that, they know that tea And are content to fall back on it secure in their defense. Why change Tea when you raise the swishing of your own to the level of an art?. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
