Ham:
> I think Pirsig wrote somewhere that experience
> defines reality. (Possibly
> one of the MoQists here can locate the quote.) If
> he's right, then, as
> Prof. Linde said, in the absence of an observer
> there is no universe.
SA: That's cause you think experience has to do with
an observer alone.
Ham:
> Then, the universe begins to form as the newborn
> individual experiences it. It
> takes on the aspects of dicersity, change,
> relations, causes/effects, and
> structural order as the child begins to
> intellectualize his experience.
> And -- Presto! -- the physical universe comes into
> existence.
SA: Only according to this one person your talking
about.
Ham:
> We have all
> the evidence in the world to support this concept,
> and nothing but
> "intellectual assumptions" to the contrary.
SA: Yeah, just like the evidence of a scientists that
has been in the room with many philosophers and
historians doing science, but you blew that off. Ham,
this is only going to be what you want it to be.
Since I don't agree, and I'm not going to speak for
Arlo, with you, then something in the way you come
across doesn't make sense either and it only seems
that your making "intellectual assumptions" contrary
to "all the evidence in the world". Just cause you
say it doesn't make it so, same for me.
SA
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