On Friday 2 May 2008 5:21 AM Ron writes to Ham: <snip>
Ron: This is the conundrum, existence relies on the illusion of space/time To I which I take to mean that existence itself is an illusion. Hmm. <snip> Hi Ron, Ham, and all, Essence or existence, which is the variable? IMO Existence is layered in an evolutionary order, and essence follows existence. Essence is only known in existential layers. Hence the value of words and experience! What is Evolution? How can I write about the undefined? I can¹t! I can only twist the meaning of words into ³analogies² or ³metaphors² or ³gestures² to have any chance of being intelligible. I suspect mathematics has difficulties with analogies, metaphors and gestures although ³quantum² seems to cross some line. Yikes! ³Evolution² is an ³order² in existence? ³Evolution² is a blast! ³Order² and ³manifestation² are different. IMO ³Order² resides in undefined consciousness. DQ points at undefined consciousness for order. ³Manifestations² reside in defined consciousness. SQ points at ³defined² consciousness for ³manifestations² and ³defined words² used in definitions. Order/Manifestation. Orders of manifestations are a tongue twister DQ/SQ. Evolution is a metaphor for an order in ³existence²? ³Evolution² is DQ/SQ. The whole thought of levels of existence is metaphorical. An analogy for seven levels in existence is the musical scale of sound, DO, Re, Mi__Fa, Sol, La, Ti__DO. The vibrations are doubled, in a new octave, for greater variety. Seven individual levels of existence which can become many more in doubling in an individual for variety, keeping the same relationships? Existence is a metaphor? ³³Culture² hands me a set of glasses². Culture is not an ³undefined² in my consciousness. Culture is defined in words. How is it then that sometimes: What I do is not what I wish to do? My actions can have a dual motivation from evolution (undefined) and from culture (defined). Culture, mechanical, steals my conscious individuality from cosmic evolution by words and actions. Historically personal responsibility is accountable to a changing morality! The Ten Commandments are of recent vintage. Individual manifestation follows a law of three e.g. the three aspects of ³a word²! Culture manifests in physics, consciousness manifests in metaphysics, evolution. Evolution is described in historical or cosmological events. Order is, ascending or descending DQ, consciousness? Culture is a manifestation, SQ. Evolution is an order in existence? IMO Joe On 5/2/08 5:21 AM, "Ron Kulp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ron: > This is the conundrum, existence relies on the illusion of space/time > To I which I take to mean that existence itself is an illusion. Hmm. > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
