ADDED COMMENTS:
> Krimel:
> > If people have the meaning of the law written in
> > their hearts, if they
> > listen to the still small voice within them; they
> do not need to write
> > morality down. They don't have to seek justice in
> > morality or the law; it
> > flows from their interactions.
> > Rules and laws kick in as external loci of
> control,
> > when the internal loci
> > of control cease to function.
SA: This comment Krimel, "...internal loci of control
cease to function..." could very well slip into being
interrupted as insanity, crazy, weird, and odd
behavior, thus, the culture steps in with rules that
fit some measure within the culture that is expected,
thus, not surprising and thus those making the rules
feel comfortable with the perceived behavior. "Those
making the rules..." the "those" could be everybody,
the whole culture, in time, it is evolutionary and
philosophical. How many times have we in our lives
heard somebody's ideas and thought of them as
frightening and horrible? So horrible that if those
ideas, those creative patterns, were able to enact
social patterns, we think to ourselves, this culture
would head for destruction? Yet, maybe, this loss of
internal control is quite orderly for the person
losing control. Orderly in a dynamic way. What I
mean is, it is moral for the person to lose this
internal control AS LONG AS this person is reaching
out for a good replacement of internal patterns. How
we know that many are not reaching out for dynamic,
new, internal patterns or they are prevented from
doing so somehow and someway is by more and more
"external loci of control" has to take over to prevent
the madness from transforming people into not just
mobs with pitchforks which would be some assemblage of
order compared to the extremes of many people running
around in loose knit societies drinking blood and
those few displaying mating patterns by battering
their brains in to impress the hooting female. Thus,
control lost not only on the inside, but outside too.
How much can the outside contain problems before these
more concrete structures of external control fail? I
would say large, very large populations have something
to do with having the physical numbers of people to
show brute force in containment. Not that large
populations mean more disorder exists so more people
needed to control these disorders within the culture,
but I am saying that if more disorder happens, then
the need for more people to contain this disorder or
more technology, thus, more external culture.
thanks for the very stimulating thought Krimel,
SA
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