Bo,

     And this is why your SOL fails.


gray clouds disappeared while zazening,
gray clouds,
eyes closed,
eyes opened,
all blue,
not a cloud in the sky,
SA




> Bo had said:
> > "Thinking" in the intelligence sense has been with
> the Q-evolution 
> > since the biological neural network facilitated
> storing of 
> > experience, its retrieval and manipulation along
> logical "gates". 
> > The Greeks began using intelligence along the S/O
> pattern 
> > because "philosophy" necessarily is a search for
> objective truth, 
> > thus if the Orientals had their philosophical era
> (the Upanishads 
> > not Vedic) before the Greeks they also had their
> intellectual era. 
> > However they  didn't settle there (like the
> Occidentals) but passed 
> > on to a Quality-like stage.      
> 
> > Ron;
> > The search for objective truth starts with the
> formation of
> > Logical rules. Certainty in meaning must be
> established.
> > SOM begins with the establishment of grammatical
> logic
> > Which Breaks experience into subjects and objects
> creating
> > A propositional statement. Its all to build the
> foundation
> > for a rational argument In which to establish
> "truth" in
> > a standardized paradigm.
> 
> I probably get what I deserve in talking to you and
> the spirit from the 
> Woods, I have questioned some of Pirsigs points and
> can't appeal to 
> his books for support, but ZAMM's Greek part -  how
> SOM emerges - 
> is one of the most convincing and penetrating
> analyses I know of, and 
> there I think Pirsig hit the nail on the head. It
> describes how 
> humankind rose from the social mythological level to
> the intellectual 
> level by their new-fangled search for eternal
> principles that eventually 
> became the notion of truth. That truth necessarily
> must be objective 
> resulted in their looking back upon the said
> social-mythological past as 
> superstitious and ignorant (read: subjective) 
> Logical rules like 2+2=4 are given even animals can
> calculate in a 
> most elementary way, and to my knowledge computers
> are hard-wired 
> along three logical gates a bit more complicated
> that that  (can't 
> remember just now what they are) To question the
> most elementary 
> MOQ tenets and start on wildly different tracks that
> have no MOQ 
> bearing or meaning is a complete waste of time. Talk
> with the Spirit he 
> thinks highly of you. 
> 
> Bye 
> 
> Bo 
> 
> 
> 
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