[DM] I think the whole idea of determinism suggest there is one path not many possible paths. Either Krim is evading this or he is using determinism to just mean caused like throwing the dice causes the number six to appear but 1,2,3,4 and five could also have been caused, therefore the process is open and has many possible outcomes, i.e. no particular outcome is determined. Either chance or choice selects such possible options. Quality suggests what may motivate these choices. Of course there is chocie for something good and choice to deter something with bad quality. The hot stove is all about bad quality is it not?
[Krimel] Every time a six is rolled at different nest of causality is invoked; never the same "chain" twice. When we seek after the web that produced a particular result it is a post hoc analysis. The notion that the dice chooses to land is a particular way is absurd. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
