[Arlo] > Without "chance" there is no freedom. I see it the other way (surprise!). Say I have several shirts: a blue one, a red one, a green one, etc. If I value wearing my blue one today, it is no freedom for me if I only have a chance of wearing it. I might as well be forced to wear what someone else wants me to or have the gods decide what shirt I will wear. (A stopped clock is right twice a day.) I want to be able to CAUSE my wearing of the blue shirt, not leave it up to CHANCE.
[Krimel] > we are accustomed to thinking of chains of probability. what we experience > is a nest of interwoven chains But probabilities are just comparisons between two or more events; they don't affect what happens. If I roll a die, there is a 1/6 chance/probability that it will come up a 3. But what actually comes up, depends on the initial position of the die & its trajectory (among other things). Probability plays no role. Craig Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
