On Saturday 07 June 2008 10:32 AM Ham writes to Marsha:

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To sum up, there's a place for metaphor and poetry in philosophy, but
metaphysics is not the place.  If we're aiming to propose a new and unique
philosophy to the world, it must have a more substantial base to stand on.
 
Appreciate the question, Marsha.

Hi Ham, Marsha and all,

Before Aristotle explained ³Metaphysics², he explained ³Pshchology², how we
know things. He claimed that we know things by abstraction.

I guess I am stuck with that methodology.

Nicoll commenting in Psychological Commentaries states: ³To know and to be
conscious are not the same.²  Pirsig proposes an undefined DQ in
metaphysics.  Are Persig and Nicoll are on the same page with metaphor,
analogy, gesture?.

Ham denies a distinction between the ³conscious² and ³knowledge², and the
undefined in philosophy cannot be used in metaphysics.

IMO I have to use philosophy to go to Metaphysics!

Joe   



On 6/7/08 10:32 AM, "Ham Priday" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> To sum up, there's a place for metaphor and poetry in philosophy, but
> metaphysics is not the place.  If we're aiming to propose a new and unique
> philosophy to the world, it must have a more substantial base to stand on.
> 
> Appreciate the question, Marsha.


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