On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 4:49 PM, ARLO J BENSINGER JR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[Platt] > Survival, the opposite of death, is "equated with the best, which is to say > Quality." (Lila, 11) > > [Arlo] > No. Survival is "better" for other survivors maybe, since then we would not > experience "loss". Since even Pirsig (gasp) has never experienced death > first-hand, I don't think he can say with any certainty that "life is > better > than death". He can say that having others "not die" is better for him, and > I'd > fully agree. > > And, I think you'd agree, that equating "survival" with "the best" is not a > good association, since then we are equating those who "do not survive" > with > "the worst". Certainly those who do not survive are not "inferior" to those > who > do. > >From an evolutionary point of view, those who don't survive are inferior to those who do. > > [Platt] > Language consists of a lot more than analogies. It involves "the > collection > and manipulation of symbols, created in the brain, that stand for patterns > of > experience." (LC,25). > > [Arlo] > Umm.. "that stand for"... analogy. No,. "like" is analogy -- not "that stand for." The latter is simply a phrase made up of symbols strung together to form meaning (in the English language.). > [Platt] > It involves similes, metaphors, personifications, apostrophes, allusions, > alliterations, epigrams and many more figures of speech. > > [Arlo] > Gee, you left out punctuation. Punctuation is not a figure of speech. > All language is metaphorical, these grammatical > categories mean nothing to that end. This is like saying a painting is more > than a metaphor because it involves paint, canvasses, pigment and texture. > Sure > it "involves" all those things, but that does not change the fact that it > is a > metaphor. All language is not metaphor. Much of it is literal. Ex: "It's raining." "Jesus wept." Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
