Hi SA,
David is insisting that?X unpatterned experiential state is not equal to?Y 
unpatterned experiential state.
I don't think it is possible to differentiate two experiences which are both 
undifferentiated to begin with.
I think they can be conceptually differentiated, but the experiences themselves 
are identical.
If they are identical, then the 'now' of the Zennies, the God of organised 
religion and DQ of the moq are all of the same experience which has been 
conceptually differentiated.

We are familiar with the moq concept, and David has repeated it.
Many of us were familiar with the moq concept before David repeated it.
Some of us were familiar with the moq concept?before the occasion of?David's 
repetition of?it in 1999's Wandering through the Mythos thread.

Regarding TE1 (That's thought experiment 1 by the way SA): If pre lingual 
unpatterned experience is of DQ then the industrial harvesting and maintainance 
of the state can be argued to be a moral imperative.
Or can it?

squonk



s:
> Here is an argument: The pre lingual state can not be
> remembered because there 
> are no static patterns to remember. Therefore, not even
> Zennies can remember the 
> pre lingual state.
> So, how can it be asserted that this state is not?identical
> to another?

SA:? you lost me...? What are you saying?? This seems to be about a state not 
remembered - and that has to do with what?

SA
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