is this about 'la petite morte'? the french phrase for orgasm being a 'little death'?. anyway i guess the similarity is straightforward: both death and orgasm are release: liberation. by the way great spanish film about this topic...about a retired matador and a hot chick who get it on and end up.....i won't spoil it. but i guess i already may have. kill me! do it now! peace g
--- On Tue, 1/7/08, Marsha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Marsha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MD] Sexual experience and death > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Received: Tuesday, 1 July, 2008, 5:59 AM > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 3:19 PM > Subject: Re: [MD] Sexual experience and death > > > > Hi all > > > > What do we value in sexual experience? > > Or more to the point what do we value most in our > sexual experiences? > > Many and different things no doubt. > > No doubt how we experience someone's body is > valued and important? > > But this is not all or perhaps not the highest value > involved. > > Desire for physical contact is fine but as human > beings we often want > > more. > > > > What is this more? > > > > Something more than the body? > > Something more than the physical? > > Something more than SQ? > > > > We might say that more than just the body, we also > desire the person. > > > > The person may be many levels of SQ but even that is > not enough. > > But what more do we want? The person? What do we want > from > > another person? > > > > Somehow we want their uniqueness. We do not just want > the > > SQ they can repeat, the patterns we have experienced > before. > > We want their future, their possibilities, what is yet > unknown > > about them and the joint possibilities that may unfold > between > > two people (any more is perhaps just too complex and > dynamic). > > > > Or it may be less about what is gained and more about > what is > > given. > > > > And then there is loss and death. What is no longer > experienced when > > a loved one dies? The body remains and is no less > physically > > experienced. But it is a greatly reduced experience. > Reduced in what? > > Reduced > > in its potential, such that its potential can no > longer be experienced, it > > is absent. > > Such is potential. Potential is something we clearly > experience > > but cannot entirely pin down. Sure there is SQ and our > understanding > > of SQ but some experiences give us more than just SQ > and the same > > again. > > > > Some experiences are richer in DQ than others. > Sexual/erotic/love > > experiences > > with persons are one set of these. > > > > Do MOQers not need to explore all forms of experience > for what they tell > > us > > about SQ and DQ and their value? > > > > Regards > > David M > > Hi David, > > Sexual experience seems to me to be primarily where some > strong biological > patterns meets DQ. How we think about, describe and > explain it is > primarily social, but may be intellectual. I imagine > that's what you're > requesting, some intellectual discussion/exploration. But, > your topic seems > much too large. For example, the biology would be very > different at age 99, > than at age 18, and that biology profoundly affects not > only the sexual > experience, but also how we think about it. It's a > moving target. > > Maybe you could narrow the topic. Or not. > > > Marsha > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. www.yahoo7.com.au/mail Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
